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Ketamine Dart for Agitation

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  1. The problem with lower doses (<3 mg/kg IM) as the author suggested is that you have a good chance of ending up in the "partial dissociation" dose range, where patients have significant neuropsychiatric side effects that are disturbing both to the patient and to the provider. The high intubation rate may, as stated here, simply be a matter of comfort level on the part of the ED physician, as the studies on this topic did not generally list the reason for intubation.
    The dose of 4.9 mg/kg is consistent with the 2011 ACEP Clinical Policy Guideline on procedural sedation with ketamine. The article stated, "there is no apparent benefit to using 1 mg/kg IV rather than 2 mg/kg IV or to using 3 mg/kg IM rather than 4 to 5 mg/kg IM, except perhaps a slightly faster recovery with the lower dose.77 Clinicians should consider simply using the higher dose because ketamine is less consistently effective with lower doses.18
    Of historical note, during the 1970s anesthesiologists typically administered much higher ketamine doses (7 to 15 mg/kg IM) than those advocated now, and a systematic review identified no apparent difference in adverse event profiles between the higher and more standard dosing.4
    In the large meta-analysis, subdissociative ketamine (????3 mg/ kg IM) demonstrated fewer airway and respiratory adverse effects relative to full dissociative dosing; however, such low doses are inadequate for most painful procedures and showed a higher incidence of recovery agitation.2,3"

  2. Interesting information. It would indeed be nice to know if those patients after arriving in the ER did actually need to have their airway managed definitively, or perhaps it was as you suggested- misinterpretation of dissociation, or any other number of possibilities. In the EMS world where medical and personnel resources are often limited, having ketamine available as a rapid onset sedative agent has been very beneficial to both the patients and the providers. I think it could be argued that even if the 30% did eventually need intubated, you could chalk it up to good aggressive care. Before we started using ketamine for chemical take-down (in the haldol/benadryl/hope&pray days), we saw more combative/altered patients and EMS and law enforcement personnel injuries from perhaps preventable altercations.

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